Before the late nineteen eighties, mass shootings and acts of senseless violence were relatively unheard of. Prozac, the most well known SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) antidepressant, was not yet on the market. When Prozac did arrive, it was marketed as a panacea for depression which resulted in huge profits for its manufacturer Eli Lilly. Of course other drug companies had to create their own cash cow and followed suit by marketing their own SSRI antidepressants.
Subsequently, mass shootings and other violent incidents started to be reported. More often than not, the common denominator was that the shooters were on an antidepressant, or withdrawing from one. This is not about an isolated incident or two but numerous shootings. The question is, during the past twenty years is the use of antidepressants here a coincidence or a causation?
There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on.
Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.
In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.
No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids.
A parent retells how his child couldn’t stand how the drugs made him feel and so he committed suicide. Another parent is stuck with the image of his child running in front of a moving car because the child wanted to die. Imagine calling 911 because your child is trying to kill herself when you know your child was not like that before taking the antidepressant. Imagine what you would feel like upon finding out that your child is the shooter in a murderous rampage on the school campus.
While on a mix of antidepressants, sixteen year old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to school and held twenty-three students hostage. His father said he was not a violent kid before he took the drugs but while on the medication he was volatile and susceptible to blind rage. Cory does not remember anything other than waking up, not feeling so well and going back to bed. The next thing he remembered was being in juvenile detention. Luckily no one was hurt, but it could have become another mass shooting.
A Harvard psychiatrist closely monitors his patients as he has seen firsthand that those that were not suicidal before became agitated, restless and completely preoccupied with suicidal thoughts. When these patients were taken off the drug, the thoughts went away. Clearly this demonstrates it’s the drugs causing these violent feelings, not the mental health of the patient.
They claim that these drugs are safe and effective but obviously they aren’t. Doctors themselves may not be aware of the dangers of these drugs, but their patients are the ones who will suffer the consequences if they are not told of the potentially lethal side effects. Doctors should at the very least go over the FDA Black Box warning which is on all antidepressants. This warning states that there is an increased risk of suicidal thoughts and behavior by taking the drug. Otherwise, doctors are pretty much pulling the trigger themselves so-to-speak.
The worst part is we are all being misled with false information in regards to “mental illness.” Given the fact that there is not a single diagnostic test for depression or any other “mental disorder,” how can one even attempt to diagnose a “mental disorder” without a shred of scientific evidence to back it up? Opinions about symptoms are not science! There is the “chemical brain imbalance” theory, but where is the science to prove it exists?
The point is you can’t prescribe an antidepressant or any other psychiatric drug when you don’t know the cause of the symptoms. Nothing ever gets treated, helped or fixed without a cause. Instead, mind-altering drugs are being given to our future generation for no sensible or logical reason other than profits for pharmaceutical companies. The only result is dead bodies from mass shootings and that is truly senseless. Check it out for yourself and watch the YouTube video. Check out the list of school incidents linked to SSRIs below. Ensure your children are safe!
References:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/02/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-violence.aspx
http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school
Psychiatric Drugs Create Violence & Suicide: School Shootings & Other Acts of Senseless Violence
CCHR has released a new report titled Psychiatric Drugs Create Violence & Suicide: School Shootings & Other Acts of Senseless Violence.
This report provides information on more than 30 studies that link antidepressants, antipsychotics, psychostimulants, mood stabilizers and sedative hypnotics to adverse effects that include hostility, mania, aggression, self-harm, suicide and homicidal thoughts.
The 64-page report also details more than 60 examples of school and mass shootings, stabbings and senseless violent acts committed by those under the influence of psychotropic drugs or experiencing serious withdrawal from them.
The goal of this report is to help law enforcement; educators and policy makers learn how psychotropic drugs are a hidden link to the prevalence of violence and suicide in the community.
This report may be downloaded at this link:
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Antidepressants only suppresses the depression but doesn’t allow an individual to mitigate and confront their issues and grow beyond it. Its one of the reasons why we stress on focusing on meditation like activities which allows an individual to confront their depression stand on their grounds and move forward.
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It took about 6 weeks of being “sober” but now he wouldn’t hurt a insect again. I thought I lost my child. The pills made him crazy, so they gave him stronger pills that made it even worse. Giving him those pills was the biggest mistake of my life, stopping them from giving him more was the best thing I ever did. Just remember it takes about 4 weeks to see the true effect when starting the medication and takes even longer to return to normal after stopping the medication. They may help someone but after witness this first hand I couldn’t believe what a money my kid turned into. The things he did and said… He doesn’t Remember half of what happened in that 6 month time.. I think a class action against the drug manufacturer is needed to stop this.
I don’t feel that way now, 20 years later, but I was so ballistic out of my mind and PURPLE with rage, they would have been scraping brains off the ceilings where I was working at the time.
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A lot of what you say about SSRI’s and their link to suicidal ideation and occasionally violence is true. I believe from my own experience of these drugs is that they are dangerous for a minority of people but you scientologists go over the top every time.
I appreciate that you speak out about the dangers of psychiatry but rather than just alarm people why don’t you spend your millions of pounds paying well respected researchers and scientists to study these very important issues and report them in a non sensationalist way. Maybe people outside you religion might actually take you seriously.
I have no problem with Scientology in general but for example your, “Psychiatry, an industry of death” documentary is completely over the top. Nobody who’s read up on the history of psychiatry is unaware of the often brutal “treatments” given are appalling but scaring off people who may need professional help isn’t a very good idea.
It’s a shame that with all the money and influence your church has that you don’t address these potentially life threatening issues in a more measured and sensible way. When somebody like me who essentially agrees with you is completely turned off by your extreme tactics rather than willing to help you spread your message, your doing something wrong.
If I was being cynical, I’d say your trying to recruit some of the most vulnerable people in society to your organisation and it’s founders own inaccurate views on mental health.
First, CCHR is non-religious. Second, if you are looking for information from respected researchers, etc. please read this report and the pages of references included. https://www.cchrint.org/pdfs/violence-report.pdf
We went searching for an aswans toy step sons behavior issue. Not listening in school, obsessed with video games, poor social skills. They put him on Prozac. A month later he threatened to kill people at school on is his feelings book. Befoer the Prozac he wouldn’t kill an insect.. of course someone seen the book and next thing you know he is kicked out of school and put into a mental hospital. They took him off the Prozac and gave him two other pills much stronger but still ssri. He came home, crush a cat and threatened our lives daily for months intoll they locked him up in Juvy detention. At that point we could finally think because we weren’t fighting a physco. We decided to stop giving him the meds. When he got out of detention we cut his dose in half then half agin untill he was off the pills completely. It took about 6 weeks of being “sober” but now he wouldn’t hurt a insect again. I thought I lost my child. The pills made him crazy, so they gave him stronger pills that made it even worse. Giving him those pills was the biggest mistake of my life, stopping them from giving him more was the best thing I ever did. Just remember it takes about 4 weeks to see the true effect when starting the medication and takes even longer to return to normal after stopping the medication. They may help someone but after witness this first hand I couldn’t believe what a money my kid turned into. The things he did and said… He doesn’t Remember half of what happened in that 6 month time.. I think a class action against the drug manufacturer is needed to stop this.
I have personally experienced my husband’s symptoms after beginning Effexor and other SSNRIs — the rage and explosive temper as well as he told his psychiatrist he had homocidal thoughts. All symptoms left after coming off the anti depressants. I remember my mother describing suicidal thoughts after starting Prozac back in the 80’s… thankfully she had the wherewithal to immediately discontinue the drug. She had been experiencing depression from the stress of a divorce and after beginning the drug she experienced feeling of suiciadal ecstasy… wanting to just drive her car off an overpass and feeling ecstatic about it. She had never been suicidal befor or after that Prozac experience. I have long suspected that these drugs may be involved in these mass shootings due to the violence, bizarre disconnect and lack of empathy.
I totally concur. I was a raging maniac overdosing on them 20 years ago. If I had owned a gun, I swear I would have gunned down the assholes I was in contention with at the time. I don’t feel that way now, 20 years later, but I was so ballistic out of my mind and PURPLE with rage, they would have been scraping brains off the ceilings where I was working at the time.
I am Saddened and just totally PO’d by another un nessary shooting. I believe the people dealing with mental illness need to take long hard look at how we have been raising our kids. From kindergarden on up,they are totally protected from any failure. they are given trophies for showing up.They are never allowed to take credit for thier failures.Please note failures are a part of life they need to be prepared to handle as they grow. We are not allowing this to become part of their programing. just look back at the “mental cases” that have been doing harm to masses . One in Ca run down people because he was still a virgin,It had to be societies fault so others had to pay. Most of these shootings etc can be traced to the fact they are not prepared for lifes daily ups and downs. This lastest in TX. was bent out of shape with his inlaws so their church gets the slaughter. Proof he was not able to cope with failure shows in his reaction to a earlier girlfriend breaking up with him.she said he would call her 30X a day. Learning how to deal with failure and things not going your way ,including some bullying prepare them for life, make them stronger. We see young men & women in colleges crying over what used to be nothing ,they got offended. They even need adulting classes as being a adult is diffcult for them, they have no functioning skills to survive out side their parents homes. Growing up I did things at 10 -12 yrs that these young adults are clueless on.If we are to turn this around we need to stop screaming gun control and look deeper into the minds of the offenders. Trophies and Helicopter Mommies are killing us ~~ why can’t people see it .kids need to fail they need to learn life’s not gravy ,you need to work for what you get. that’s been lost on the last two generations .Gun laws are not the solution ~Evil exists and will always find a way .Need to address the evil
The following is a synopsis of my own experience taking an SSRI (Zoloft) for approximately four years: In 1998, after purchasing our first home, and deciding to stay home to raise our new baby, I took my then toddler to his pediatrician for his latest series of immunization injections. My son’s pediatrician noticed that I was very tired and listless, mostly since my son had not slept through the night even after two years. Annoying as this situation was, it is also something very common that many new parents struggle with. Anyway, my son’s pediatrician immediately wrote up a prescription for me for Zoloft which I began taking the very next day, thinking that a doctor must “know best”. How wrong I was! After taking Zoloft for several months, at first, everything was fine. I seemed to have gained much more energy, and my mood improved as the months went by. However, over a period of time, I gradually began to experience subtle personality changes. As these changes were incremental, I didn’t notice the differences myself, as these changes in thinking were largely internal. As a formerly quiet and sensitive individual (gardening, cooking, quilting, reading, and taking care of our new baby were activities that I really enjoyed), I began to behave very differently, and began to experience intrusive and unusual impulsive thoughts. My behavior also became much more erratic, aggressive, and confrontational with people. It was as though I no longer had any kind of “social filter” in conversation, and would blurt out whatever it was that was on my mind, and really didn’t care. I also became very hyperactive during this time, and lost a significant amount of weight, primarily because I couldn’t sit still for very long, and developed a habit of swinging, or shaking my legs, whenever I sat down. At night, I would regularly experience violent and terrifying nightmares that I had never had before. At times, I felt like I was sleepwalking, unable to separate my waking experiences from a dreamlike stars. will not go into detail, but suffice to say, my life had become volatile to myself and those around me, and for a very long time, no one could tell, until of course, it got much worse. Thankfully, my husband, who at that time had known me for 15 years, began to notice some of the more obvious side-effects, and thought that there was something wrong, although at the time we didn’t attribute these changes to the medication. It was only after I landed in the hospital, did my husband ever start to become suspicious of the SSRI medication which was supposed to have been a “positive effect” on my health. And thank God he did! It was then that we both decided that I should discontinue the medication. It took a total of three years for me to recover and gain the equilibrium that I had before I had started taking Zoloft. Since then, I no longer take any medication stronger than aspirin, and I tell my story to anyone who is thinking of starting these medications. Be forewarned. These medications CAN be dangerous – while taking them, and also while discontinuing them – which is the reason why these medications now have a warning label on them. I realize that for some people, they may not have suffered serious, adverse side-effects from these medications, and so, tend to discount the experiences of those that do, but this perspective is very misinformed. From my own horrifying experience, I have no doubt at all that these medications may be a contributing factor to the increased incidences of violence in our country today, as these incidences directly parallel the increased use of these drugs in the general population. Of course, the pharmaceutical companies will always blame a “pre-existing” mental disorder on these incidents, but in my case, I was just your average, sleep-deprived, new mom when this medication was practically forced on me by my toddler’s pediatrician! To this day, I consider myself extremely lucky, but many individuals and families, have sadly, not been so lucky, and have absolutely had their lives, and the lives of others, devastated by these medications. I pray every day that more of us are willing to see the connection between “unexplainable” violence and the very real, and very serious, adverse side-effects that SSRIs and antidepressants present.
The article doesn’t really rule out a rather simple and obvious observation: antidepressants get people out of depression. Depressed people they lack the energy and agency to do violent things. Antidepressants lift them out of that.
There’s been evidence for decades that giving people antidepressants leads to MORE suicide, because people were too depressed to kill themselves. Should society forego lifting millions of people out of depression because a few are finally able to carry out their violent plans? It’s a trade-off. I don’t know what the answer is.
I was prescribed Zoloft back in 2002. A few months later I got a felony. Never been in trouble with the law before or after. Thanks to Zoloft, my life got trashed forever. Someday it would be nice to get my pound of flesh back out of the makers of that nasty drug. I would much rather have lived with minor depression than a lifetime of being a second class citizen. But hey, they made their money, who cares about the devastation in my life eh?
Twice as many women take antidepressants as men they theyre not shooting up schools or shopping malls or movie theaters
Maybe that would explain the estimated 200 women kill their children every year in the United States. https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/04/19-moms-who-killed-their-kids/
There is evidence of “chemical brain imbalance” and it can be treated. But it is not just the brain – the entire body is sick. Imbalances are caused by lack of nutrients and an overabundance of toxins that render the mitochondria and the immune system dysfunctional. Look at the research happening in the autism community and how parents are recovering their children’s body’s and brains. We have to take medicine away from viewing each organ as separate from the rest of the body. Recent research shows that a lack of microbiome in the gut ( due to antibiotic overuse) changes how the brain functions. Each suffering person is different and until we start to use real personalized medicine to help these people who are extremely, physically ill, these awful events will occur with or without guns.
“I don’t believe I have ever heard a knowledgeable, well-trained psychiatrist make such a preposterous claim [that patients have a chemical imbalance], except perhaps to mock it…In truth, the ‘chemical imbalance’ notion was always a kind of urban legend—never a theory seriously propounded by well-informed psychiatrists.” –Ronald W. Pies, M.D., Professor of Psychiatry, the State University of New York and Tufts University School of Medicine
Why does animals not have depressions that people can have?
Despite the fact this article first appeared in November of 2012, five years ago, as part of CCHR Florida’s efforts, now we have a shooter, Nikolas Cruz, with a 7-year history of calls to 911, FBI involvement, and repeated evaluations by licensed therapists, all of whom deemed him not to be a threat.
The fact they were all wrong is undeniable.
I’m a data/systems analyst. In 2012, shortly after the Newton shooting, I located, downloaded, and began analyzing a very detailed data set of mass shootings between 1981 and 2011. That’s 30 years of mass shootings.
There are only two substantial conclusions one can draw from the data:
1. Even the best psychological practitioners cannot successfully identify everyone who might prove harmful to themselves and others. Many mass shooters had been evaluated by psychologists or trained/licensed therapists who failed to identify them as a threat. Deeming everyone who passes through their doors as a threat, however, is not the answer. Less than 1 out of 10,000 subjects evaluated for potential harm, yet dismissed as non-harmful, ever go on to engage in a mass shooting. You cannot deprive the other 9,999 (actually, a lot more) of their own rights.
2. So-called “gun-free” zones occupy less than 10% of the physical space frequented by the general public, yet are where more than 80% of all mass shootings occur. In fact, more than one mass shooter has confessed they targeted a gun-free zone precisely because it was a gun-free zone so as to minimize the likelihood anyone would be armed and could shoot back.
Thus, here are my recommendations:
1. Stop designating areas as “gun-free” zones. Not only is that a wide open invitation to mass shooters, but it also denies the lawful general public their Constitutional right to defend themselves. Given the undeniably clear data and findings, the so-called “gun-free” zones are pathetically stupid. Stop designating gun-free zones.
2. For areas where you really do not want firearms, such as K-12 schools, courtrooms and prisons, authorities bear the responsibility of protecting those who must be there. Secure the physical facility from unauthorized entry. Employ well-trained armed guards to stop unlawful armed intruders. Single point of access. Controlled entry. We do a very good job of this with courtrooms and prisons. Some municipalities do a very good job of this with schools. Take heed. Learn. Do. Protect our kids.
3. For more adult areas like malls and movie theaters, stop preventing law-abiding adults from defending themselves. Law-abiding citizens use firearms somewhere between 650,000 to 800,000 times each and every year to defend themselves against violent crime, usually without having to fire a shot. I’ve been involved in three such incidents. No shots fired, but the attack was stopped. In fact, because armed, law-abiding citizens are not cops, they invariably hold their fire until it becomes absolutely necessary to stop the attack. Error rates are only 2% for armed citizens, but 11% for law enforcement officers. Thus, disarming law abiding citizens is pathetically stupid.
4. Don’t touch the current psychological evaluation programs in place. Although it’s not an exact science, they do a very good job, with a very low error rate, in terms of identifying those who are a threat to themselves and others.
5. Stop politicizing the issue. It’s not Trump’s fault. It’s not Hillary’s or Obama’s fault. It’s not the fault of Democrats or Republicans. In fact, most of the “solutions” proposed by politicians would greatly exacerbate the issue. Stop it. Knock it off. Do the research and find out what really works. Limits on magazines? Caliber? Number of guns one an buy during any given time period? Absolutely none of these foolhardy measures has ever stopped a single mass shooting. What HAS stopped mass shootings is when either a law-abiding citizen or law enforcement officer at the scene SHOT the mass shooter before they could continue. Securing places where people who must attend are disarmed, like students in schools, is the best way to deter such shootings.
6. Stop the blitheringly idiotic headlines. Mainstream media bears a huge responsibility to print the truth, instead of sensationalism like, “No other country has these types of…” Phooey. I can name thirty countries off the top of my head where such shootings are far worse than they are here in the United States of America.
7. Investigate the relation between mass shootings and psychoactive drugs. When a mother of four on psychoactive drugs drowns all four kids in a bathtub as her very first indication she has any violent tendencies, it’s a statistical anomaly. When this is repeated thousands of times over thirty years, you’ve got a real problem, and the drugs are highly suspect.
Yes, mass shootings are a tragedy. Let’s not create further tragedy by resorting to knee-jerk gun control that has not nor will ever stop mass shootings and is likely to make them much worse. Instead, let’s secure facilities and respect the rights of all citizens to defend themselves in accordance with our Constitution.
I find this article irresponsible and misguided. To blame antidepressants as the “cause” for these horrendous acts of violence is horrendous and misleading. Depressant prescription is due to underlying symptoms, in other words, there was a problem to begin with. Agreed, it is no surprise that there may have been mis-prescribed cases, but, to attribute it to causation directly is irresponsible. Just as it is irresponsible to diagnose the action or mental state of say, the president, without seeing him physically, is inaccurate, even with evidence of irrational action and speech, would be wrong.
To say there is no evidence of “brain chemistry” in balance is to deny schizophrenia and an array of other mental diseases.
Depression, SSRI drugs exist throughout the world, yet, here in the U.S. there is an extremely disproportionate occurrence of mass murder (look it up) by gunfire.
No there is a connection you can draw.
I don’t believe I have ever heard a knowledgeable, well-trained psychiatrist make such a preposterous claim [that patients have a chemical imbalance], except perhaps to mock it…In truth, the ‘chemical imbalance’ notion was always a kind of urban legend—never a theory seriously propounded by well-informed psychiatrists.” –Ronald W. Pies, M.D., Professor of Psychiatry, the State University of New York and Tufts University School of Medicine
I was fairly impressed until I read the last couple of paragraphs of the article. After visiting the website I was even less impressed. I always thought .org sites had fairly accurate information not wild claims without the evidence to back them up. While I have always believed many drugs are loosley regulated and that side effects are common, after reading this article I find myself looking for statistics and not broad claims such as “no mental disorder has ever been diagnosed.” This quasi literature review makes me question the validity of the CCHR. I found Susan’s comments on her experience with Disseminated Histoplasmosis be more convincing.
thank you for sharing your experience. looking forward for more.
Typical …
1. Feeling bad
2. Given drugs
3. Sometimes better, sometimes not
4. Stop taking
5. Rage
(1) is often due to Toxoplasma Gondii infection in the brain. We ignore that at our peril and the lives of innocent victims.
Mere blood test ok but not definitive because the antibodies fade just like its close genetic cousin malaria.
We need a new procedure, drill a tiny hole in the skull just large enough for a needle to extract fluid and test that, bypassing the blood-brain barrier.
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Read David Healy’s book “Let Them Eat Prozac” for a thoughtful, detailed presentation of the dangers as well as the history associated with these drugs. Healy is a licensed psychiatrist who prescribed Prozac in its early days and then became an advocate against it after being a witness in a lawsuit against Eli Lilly. Among other things, during the trial he had access to the company’s internal documents showing that they knew during the clinical trials (prior to FDA approval) that there were such problems, and suppressed those findings. Lilly won based on a “it’s the disease not the drug” defense, but I think time is proving this absolutely incorrect. Perhaps the disease has to be present (the “loaded gun”), but the drug pulls the trigger…
I have to say this. Here we have another mass shooting in Florida school. When will someone finally do something about children taking medication from the time they turn 5 to being a adult.
Everyone has had something happen to them that has made you very angry. So angry that you have thought about taking action against the person. But what is it that stops you from doing someone harm. That is your brain. Now if you are taking drugs they effect your brain. Now everyone are not effected the same. But just like alcohol or any mind altering drugs. You are not thinking normal.
So if a child from grade school is bullied by other children and the bullying continues until high school. That child is getting angry and more angrier that now is probably considering to do something about the children who are bullying them. So the part of your brain that is supposed to tell you that is not right and to kill people or to do harm is not working and so now the child has gone to school and commit a mass shooting.
Forgot to add, great article, truly.
I’m a fan of Dr. Peter Breggin, he says there no, or usually ( I can’t remember which ) but no chemical imbalance in the brain until many pharmaceuticals are given. Pharmaceuticals are synthetic, my words here. They have petrochemicals the body shouldn’t be ingesting. Ever since pharmaceuticals and lawyers were allowed to advertise on tel-lie-vision, along with a lot of other crap, we’ve been losing our humanity. We’re a heavily marketed nation. God help us. Our children can hardly have childhoods anymore.
You won’t hear about this on CNN. Drug ads pay their salaries.
I agreed with your findings . We just had a mass shooting in Las Vegas and everyone wants to know what will make a 60 something man whom has millions of dollars a with no political affiliations terrorist connections do this .
Oh and by the way, it is just coming out that the Vegas shooter was on “anti-anxiety” dugs.
Hello,
Since correlation does not necessarily mean causation, I’d like to put forward a theory that antidepressants may not cause murderous thoughts/mass shootings, but that the same thing that results in the prescription of antidepressants might also cause the murderous thoughts/
I’d like to share information I learned during my workplace’s outbreak of a disease that acidifies the blood, releasing adrenaline and causing insomnia and aggression, causes mood disorders and wild mood swings and (religious) delusions, can cause hematological malignancies, precancerous conditions, rheumatic diseases, connective tissue diseases, autoimmune symptoms, inflammation in any organ/tissue, seizures, migraines, hallucinations, etc. and is often undiagnosed/misdiagnosed in immunocompetent victims.
My coworkers and I, all immunocompetent, got Disseminated Histoplasmosis in Dallas-Fort Worth from roosting bats, that shed the fungus in their feces. The doctors said we couldn’t possibly have it, since we all had intact immune systems. The doctors were wrong.
From my experience, I learned that almost NO doctor will suspect it, and some will REFUSE to test for it, even when told someone and their coworkers have all the symptoms and spend a lot of time in a building with bats in the ceiling. Almost no one realizes bats carry the fungus. And almost NO doctor, even infectious diseases “experts,” understand the DISSEMINATED form, just the pulmonary form, and the only test that will be done by many doctors before they diagnose people as NOT having it is an X-ray, even though at least 40-70% of victims will have NO sign of it on a lung X-ray.
More than 100 outbreaks have occurred in the U.S. since 1938, and those are just the ones that were figured out, since people go to different doctors. One outbreak was over 100,000 victims in Indianapolis. 80-90+% of people in some areas have been infected. It can lay dormant for up to 40 years in the lungs and/or adrenals.
This pathogen causes idiopathic diseases and conditions, including hematological malignancies, autoimmune symptoms, myelitis, myositis, vasculitis. etc. It causes hypervascularization, calcifications, sclerosis, fibrosis, necrosis, leukopenia, anemia, neutrophilia, pancytopenia, thrombocytopenia, hypoglycemia, cysts, abscesses, polyps, stenosis, and perforations, inflammation of various organs, GI problems, hepatitis, etc.
It at least “mimics” autoimmune diseases, cancer, mental illness, migraines, seizures, etc. It’s known to cause rheumatological conditions, inflammation, and precancerous conditions. It causes hematological malignancies, and some doctors claim their leukemia patients go into remission when given antifungal. My friend in another state who died from lupus lived across the street from a bat colony. An acquaintance with alopecia universalis and whose mother had degenerative brain disorder has bat houses on their property.
Apparently, even the CDC didn’t know bats CARRY it and shed it in their feces, although they knew it could grow in bird and bat feces. Researchers claim the subacute type is more common than believed. It is known to at least mimic autoimmune diseases and cancer, and known to give false-positives in PET scans. But no one diagnosed with an autoimmune disease or cancer is screened for it. In fact, at least one NIH paper states explicitly that all patients diagnosed with sarcoidosis be tested for it, but most, if not all, are not. Other doctors are claiming things like sarcoidosis IS disseminated histoplasmosis.
Just one disease of unknown cause that could be caused by Disseminated Histoplasmosis: I suspect, based on my and my coworker’s symptoms (during our “rare” infectious disease outbreak) and my research, that interstitial cystitis and its comorbid conditions can be caused by disseminated histoplasmosis, which causes inflammation throughout the body, causes “autoimmune” symptoms, and is not as rare as believed. I read that “interstitial cystitis (IC) is a chronic inflammatory condition of the submucosal and muscular layers of the bladder, and the cause is currently unknown. Some people with IC have been diagnosed with other conditions such as irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, allergies, Sjogren’s syndrome, which raises the possibility that interstitial cystitis may be caused by mechanisms that cause these other conditions. In addition, men with IC are frequently diagnosed as having chronic nonbacterial prostatitis, and there is an extensive overlap of symptoms and treatment between the two conditions, leading researchers to posit that the conditions may share the same etiology and pathology.”
I believe the “side effects” of Haldol (leukopenia and MS symptoms) might not always be side effects but just more symptoms of Disseminated Histoplasmosis, since it causes leukopenia and MS symptoms. What about the unknown reason why beta blockers cause tardive dyskinesia? The tinnitus, photophobia, psychosis “caused” by Cipro? The hypersexuality and leukemia “caused” by Abilify?
The fungus is an Oxygenale and therefore consumes collagen. It’s known to cause connective tissue diseases. Fungal hyphae carry an electrical charge and align under a current. It causes RNA/DNA damage. It’s known to cause delusions, wild mood swings, and hallucinations. It’s most potent in female lactating bats, because the fungus likes sugar (lactose) and nitrogen (amino acids, protein). What about female lactating humans…postpartum psychosis? The bats give birth late spring/summer, and I noticed suicide rates spike in late spring/early summer. A map of mental distress and some diseases appear to almost perfectly overlay a map of Histoplasmosis. Johns Hopkins linked autism to an immune response in the womb. Alzheimer’s was linked to hypoglycemia, which can be caused by chronic CNS histoplasmosis. The bats eat moths, which are attracted to blue and white city lights.
My coworkers and I had GI problems, liver problems, weird rashes, plantar fasciitis, etc., and I had swollen lymph nodes, hives, lesions, and started getting migraines and plantar fasciitis in the building, and haven’t had them since I left. It gave me temporary fecal incontinence, seizures, dark blood from my intestines, nystagmus, benign paroxysmal positional vertigo, and chronic spontaneous “orgasms.” I had symptoms of several autoimmune diseases, including Fibromyalgia, Sarcoidosis, ALS, MS, etc. that have disappeared since leaving the area and taking nothing but Itraconazole antifungal.
No one, including doctors, could figure out what was wrong with us, and I was being killed by my doctor, who mistakenly refused to believe I had it and gave me Prednisone (at least 2 years after I already had Disseminated Histoplasmosis) after a positive ANA titer, until I miraculously remembered that a visiting man once told my elementary school class that bats CARRY histoplasmosis….so much of it that they evolved to deal with the photophobia and tinnitus it causes by hunting at night by echolocation. There’s a lot more. I wrote a book about my experience with Disseminated Histoplasmosis called “Batsh#t Crazy,” because bats shed the fungus in their feces and it causes delusions and hallucinations, I suspect by the sclerotia it can form emitting hallucinogens, along with inflammation in the CNS. (Schizophrenics have 2X of a chemical associated with yeast, part of the fungal life cycle.)
Thank you for your time
Susan, You’re comment was well presented and apparently thoroughly researched, but I found myself having a very difficult time wading through it because of it’s technical jargon. Perhaps you should give a less technical synopsys before or after the technospeak.
Susan, as a former SSRI user, I find your analogy not only degrading to those suffering the effects of psychotropic drug use which includes YEARS of homicidal/suicidal ideation and behaviors to fight on a daily basis, but also lacking in common sense. I’ve been there and I’ve had to struggle with both homicidal and suicidal ideation and behavior myself, all because of a pill. Before this I never in my life would’ve believed this could happen. But I am living proof that it does happen. It is especially bad for teens and children.
I was prescribed SSRIs of varying brands supposedly for chronic fatigue syndrome, and then the true issue which turned out to be nerve damage caused by an injury to my lumbar spine. These drugs made me either wired or tired, and very difficult to get off of. In my case they harmed more than helped. I finally (with help of online info) figured out how to get off of the last one, Pristiq) and now feel my old self coming back but it took 6 months to taper down. Doctors do not know what they are doing with these drugs, prescribing them for off label uses. Yes, I do believe that some people can become violent from either taking or discontinuing these drugs. I was not made aware of discontinuation syndrome until I found out about it online. I also learned about the symptoms of too much serotonin, which sounds like what was happening to me. Too much serotonin can produce some strange feelings.
Hello, I want to thank you so very much for your post. I am on antidepressants and antipsychotic meds and took huge offence to people trying to say that these drugs are causing violent actions. I was shaking I was so mad because this is so not true, but when I came across your comment I thought 1) if I saw your comment, others will too. And 2) this lady know her stuff. So I say thank you again for speaking out for people like me, it means a great deal!
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Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for this information! I just learned a few months ago that I have bats in my attic. I would never have known except that I found a dead bat in my basement right next to the chimney. Further checking found a mess of guano in a crevice between the chimney and a wall. I also found a bat in my bedroom last summer. I opened a door and it flew out. I am so freaked out since I found that I have bats in my house….it makes my house feel dirty. I want to get rid of them but they are protected by law and I don’t want any babies dying if their mother’s are blocked from reentering the house since the solution is to create a one way door for them to get out but not be able to enter. My husband died from a lung infection 7 yrs ago and I am not used to handling all these house problems.
Correlation pointing to potential causation is what a lot of research is based on. I’m looking back now on the last five years since this article was written, and at this time in early 2018, we are not even allowed to research this by-now-no-longer phenomenon. Who disallows it? The lobbying group known as the NRA, and their lapdogs in Congress. Imagine that.
Think before parroting the phrase. So many people simply repeat “correlation does not mean causation” without reflecting on how we use deductive reasoning, and perform research to arrive at what certainly looks now, five years on, as a common denominator. As in, there sure seems to be correlation between prescription drugs for mental illness and boys or men who are involved in mass shootings. So we may yet see some brave researchers who find this set of circumstances to be -causation!
I like you conplain about a lack of evidence that “mental disorders” exist but you couldn’t be bothered to link the study you referenced about dangerous SSRIS
The links are at the bottom of the article.
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These drugs take ALL empathy away
Good job FDA, just another example how the drug companies can control the FDA. These drugs should have never been approved. When they were first tested the reports stated that they could cause suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. How can you give these to children, when they are still developing social behavior. It is time to hold the drug companies and the sold called Psychiatrists that prescribe these drugs. Instead of fining the drug companies it is time to send them to jail, and revoking the licenses of these Psychiatrists. All of them are fully aware of what these drugs do, and still are selling and prescribing these harmful drugs.
What happened to the days when a Psychiatrist actually took the time to find the reason for your behavior instead of taking the easy way out, and pushing drugs. Something has happened in America, just check out all the drug commercials on T.V. today. We have lost all our Medical Ethics.
It’s not just the drugs that the FDA is pushing. How about the foods we are eating that are completely unregulated as far as gmos go? Your only choice today is to eat Certified Organic and the FDA is also trying to loosen up the regs on that!
I totally Agree!!!!
Here are some better links for you to use since we are moving our ssristories database to our main site at http://www.ssristories.drugawareness.org after Rosie’s death last year. You can also find us on Facebook where we are continuing to update the new cases.
And the following is as short video we have done with all of the school shootings and drugs involved documented: .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpFoivbZH1o&feature=youtu.be
Ann Blake Tracy, Executive Director,
International Coalition for Drug Awareness
http://www.drugawareness.org & http://ssristories.drugawareness.org
Author: “Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare – The Complete Truth of the Full Impact of Antidepressants Upon Us & Our World” & Withdrawal CD “Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!”
Lady, I need to know you! You posted invaluable information I’ve been looking for regarding SSRI’s! Would love to chat, feel free to email me!
Thank you so much for posting and making this information available!! Recently, I was restrained and hospitalized against my will and court ordered to take anti-psychotic medication!! I just barely got away from the ordeal with most of my good humor intact!! Pharmacuetical companies need to be held accountable for the poison they are spreading and profiting from at the expense of everyone who has been forced to take antipyschotic medication!! Stop the madness, before the madness stops you!!
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